Sometimes this grittiness fits your subject - Ill often choose Tri-X when shooting at former military bases because of the grain alone. The Minolta Maxxum 9 The Perfect Professional 35mm SLR? It is a true 400 ISO film. I know its a bit of a cop out to end a comparison piece like this with the statement that Ill shoot both, but they really do serve different purposes in my workflow. It has a unique feel and look. Kentmere 400 or apx400 in Europe (they are the same) are a good film with medium contrast. Compare Ilford HP5 Plus vs Arista EDU Ultra 400 vs Foma Fomapan 400 Action I dont usually see much point in discussing my workflow for development and scanning, as for me the art lies in making the images moment to moment, and not in the chemistry necessary to reveal that on film. The character of these films comes down to a combination of the above factors. In my experience it really shines one stop from box, at EI200. Im Schrank lagern noch zwei ungeffnete Pulverstze fr D 76 bzw. 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I think I spent less time editing my Tri-X shots in Lightroom after applying a basic curve in Photoshop, but I wouldnt say thats a good indication of film performance. Thank you Daniel! ago. Very little shadow detail, but great when you know how to use it. Its siblings include Fomapan 100 and Fomapan 200, plus a Retropan 320 film that was introduced just a few years ago. Corrected a couple of typos in the original piece. Enter? I was reading an article that Simon King wrote on 35mmc where he shot fomapan 400 at 200. ehrlich gesagt habe ich keine Ahnung. I recommend having a look at the images found in those to assess the qualities to be found at each different methodology. It seemed I was getting better results with my R72 filter. als der Silvermax darin ebenso mit guten Ergebnissen entwickeln lassen. Out of all the films I tested, I felt Tri-X had the best balance of contrast overall. Some have noted that the foma offering doesnt perform well at box speed, whereas there seems to be a fair amount of confidence in the Kentmere film working at 400. Its predictable, and has a very classic feeling to it. Push Fomapan 400. I think people looking for that aesthetic and willing to be less cavalier with their metering would be happy with the lower cost of Kentmere. As a truer native 400 speed film it is more practical for someone looking to get the best results at a higher speed. It has lower dynamic range, and must be treated carefully regardless of what its being shot at. Fomapan 400 is one of those polarising films, either you love it or hate it, and even those who love the film have mixed opinions. Processed in Legacy Pro L-110 (HC110 knock off) 1:40 from concentrate, 12 min at 19 deg. I then used Lightroom for final adjustments and export. Welche Zeiten hast du verwendet? leider habe ich beim K400 aber in der standentwicklung nie die Wlkchen in den Griff gekriegt- die Entwicklung wurde immer fleckig und ungleichmig, weil ja die Bewegung fehlte. Mixing the ID-11 and waiting 24 hours to use it was getting old. I thankfully finally ran out of the 100ft. These are nice, there is something about the crappy anti halation layer film when you pull it and blow the highlights a bit, it turns the glowiness up to 11.How do you prevent scratches, Simon? Grundstzlich passt auch jetzt alles in den Schrank, doch ordentlich ist das nicht. Id say that Fomapan 400 is fairly low grain, but largegrained very visible, but not bad to my eye. Ill meter Fomapan 400 for the shadows when I think theres maybe a three-four stop difference between shadow and highlight, any higher and Ill expose slightly further up. I no longer have to cross my fingers hoping that the negatives will come out. Glad you enjoyed this piece. Its cheaper than tri-x and hp5+. You must log in or register to reply here. HP5+ is an exemplary film, and definitely worth the extra cost. totally agree with the article. I dont think I have as direct an analogy with Fomapan 400, its more of its own thing. 35mmc is a blog authored, edited and published by Hamish Gill featuring daily articles submitted by readers. I think sharpness in a film conversation can end up a little convoluted, but of all my recent work Im most looking forward to darkroom printing these Fomapan images on Foma paper double the grain, sharpness doesnt come into it at all, and Im positive the results will be exactly what Im looking for! Yes, in that case you would be cutting into the film speed a bit, but you could still get more of the look you like while shooting the film you prefer. einmal hat sie es geschafft, mich vom Kippen abzuhalten und der Film wurde einfach irgendwie gekippt ohne Uhr. Have you tried Bergger pancro 400? Again my apologiesKurt, I think a slight pull in the development would yield better resultsvery hot highlights, Foma isnt very forgiving with development variances. I started shooting with Kentmere a few months ago, in the hopes that it would provide a cheap, versatile walk-around film for general purpose street photography. und deshalb folge ich da den Herstellerangaben der Chemie. May not be true full blown infrared like Kodak hie but is good enough for me, considering there isn't a whole lot of choice. Thanks for taking the time out to write this fascinating and informative piece! Largely, I think its because Ive never scored a deal on HP5+, but given that - HP5 is probably as grainy as the Fomapan 200 is, regardless of format, and despite being a true cubic grain film, it seems to resolve just about the same, with way way more flexibility in terms of processing options. So by exposing for the shadows, youre basically over exposing it 2-3 stops and thus placing the shadows off the toe and onto the linear part of the film curve? However it absolutely shines as a character film when over exposed I really do believe it to make more sense as a 200/300ish speed as many online similarly claim. (Never shot Ilford) I am definitely going to try Kentmere. TLDR: Differences are minimal, both are cheap, Kentmere very very slightly better. Fomapan 400, exposed for the sky behind the drivers cab. Aber Rodinal mit ISO 400 geht doch, finde ich. I have the feeling that you and I work in a similar style. It has more highlight bleed and halation than Kentmere, but this is rarely overwhelming in the way it may be on something like Cinestill 800t. Bringt der APX 400 tatschlich 640 ASA bei Rodinal? If you want some quality on iso 1600 with a iso 400 film use the HP5+ or films like delta 3200 or Tmax 3200 on iso 1600. Although these werent excessively bad I think Ill be sticking to other films for my standard low light/push options especially HP5. I get where you are coming from. Kentmere seems to be accurately rated at 400, and Ive never been inclined to shoot it over/under, or even to push or pull it. I take my results at 400 and, more often than not, am happy with them. Fomapan on the other hand seems underexposed when shot at box speed. It performs surprisingly well in that tiny little format. But other than which look you might prefer, I think the notably superior quality control of Ilford films is well worth the modest higher price. Why experiment with something new when I am comfortable with Kentmere? Thanks for experimenting with this film so the rest of us can just go straight to the EI that gave you these great results! The Pen EE has not arrived yet.. Kentmere is the easier and faster film, i have been able to get as good results as HP5+, and i somehow have this feel that the grain is smaller or less visible, may be completely objectively wrong. C. Continuous gentle rocking face up (single neg) in a tray. If youre looking for something a little different or want a bit of a challenge and a change from the near-perfection of Ilford and Kodak films, give Fomapan 400 a try, you never know. Character is quite a subjective measurement, and different people will assess different qualities when discussing it. I'm open to any dispute. If Fomas QC were that good, then Id rather have the Foma. The Kentmere is the real all rounder. Thank you! if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'35mmc_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_10',180,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-medrectangle-3-0'); I think this experience definitely demonstrated to me the way that box speed is subjective. Your previous content has been restored. B&H for B2B, Gov, Students & More. Thanks John! This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Nice and useful informations. Lets talk grain. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Theres never a bad time to go out and shoot some film. for Accessibility for blind people who use screen readers I have been using Kentmere 400 for years now, primarily because its comes in at the cheaper (cheapest?) Give good old Kodak Tri-X a workout. If excessive grain is not disturbing you for the Fomapan 400 you can go for Rodinal. Ill have to try it now; thanks for the recommendation! The grain is blocky, but not distracting.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'35mmc_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_17',188,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0'); The Kentmere is a little flatter, often towards a muddier, more even toned image. Its cheapReally cheap!! Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Honestly, if money is that big an object or is the sole criteria, then just steal TMY2 or TriX. You may like the results. Otherwise Id say its a tossup between Kodak Tri-X and Ilford HP5 Plus. It provides a grittier look than other Kodak films (specifically T-Max 400). Pop in a blues CD and Im in the zone. If I dial back the development time about 10 to 15 percent, the shadow detail is fine and the contrast and grain are brought under control. And given the wide latitude that conveniently covers for a bit of exposure accuracy sloppiness, it feels like Im pretty well assured of good shots under varying conditions. This means whether my subject is passing through light or shade they will have detail in my frame. There are two ways to experience 35mmc without the adverts: Paid Subscription - 2.99 per month and youll never see an advert again! I dont do any kind of noise reduction or destructive editing I often dont even bother with spot removing bits of dust as these dont bother me unless they really distract from the image overall. But how did I come to love Fomapan 400? I really disliked Fomapan 400. So this post is very helpful many thanks. Tri-X at 320 is a wonderful look but one roll at 35mm is twice the price of Fomapan, sometimes even more than half! den APX400 kann ich uneingeschrnkt empfehlen. November 20, 2019. However I still wanted to see whether Fomapan 400 could work for me in any other use cases, and so shot this roll at EI200, one stop overexposed consistently. Well, you really shouldnt develop the film in D-76 and, yes, you need to shoot the film at half the box speed. I do keep a bottle of Rodinal on hand for slower films (Ferrania P30 or Across 100) but DD-X is my go-to for everything else. The golden rule of film photography is to shoot for the shadows and develop for the highlights, however Id caution overexposing this film too much. Especially considering the cost Id be happy to shoot this when the light calls for it, and keep my standard Delta and HP5 for the less than ideal autumn and winer light. And to those who want to shoot it at ASA-400 or even faster, I say go for it! I personally have a love/hate relationship with Tri-X because no matter what I do, the grain is always hit or miss when scanning. Fomapan 400 can also be used for street work in dull conditions or in areas where you want to show off a bit more crunch to go with urban decay. Theres any number of things I could try. Kentmere 400, exposed for the interior of the car. I shot both films at box speed, and didnt experience any issues. A thorough article and greatly appreciated. Grain is just acceptable on 35 mm film and no problem if you are working on medium format. Alternativ knnte man auch einen 400er in dem Silvermax- Entwickler mal eintesten. Find out more about 35mmc here. It will also mean that I can make a few comparisons to other, higher end 400 speed films, as they fill roughly the same space. However the overall effect is actually quite muddy, and unpleasing to my eye, whereas the Fomapan in the same condition is undeniably less detailed, but results in a nicer image (in my opinion).if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'35mmc_com-box-4','ezslot_11',182,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-box-4-0'); Kentmere 400, exposed for the dappled light. I bought some and tried it and it worked. The landscape of Dungeness seems to suit that gritty-grainier look well; I like it more than I expected. They werent having any of that artsy stuff. for I buy all of my film from Analogue Wonderland. And one further note here. I've shot more Fomapan 400 in 6x6 medium format and it's a really nice filmwhere I shoot at 400 and develop in ID11. The same can be said for HP5 Plus. Rollei retro 400s/FX-39ii development time, Portra 400 35mm in-stock at Free Style (USA). HP5 Plus. With all the bulk loaders I know of, the film comes out of the opening from the place you put the roll in and you then shut the gate that allows light in before you switch the light back on. Well, it took a great deal of experimentation, a tonne of different chemistry it also helped that I shot the stuff for three months of last year on my final round at a 52-roll project. Right out of the gate, I cant trust it. Kentmere seems to be accurately rated at 400, and Ive never been inclined to shoot it over/under, or even to push or pull it. Fomapan features a more severe cut off, with well exposed images showing pure blacks and pure whites with only a very same-y grey in the middle. Kentmere is a low contrast film which leaves you a lot of room to work in the shadows, and turns out great when developed in DD-X. Really glad you found it useful! Much brighter on the figure, much darker on areas not touched by light. Im here a bit late, but I would like to add Rollei RPX. To learn more, check-out the About page, or read News for the latest. That way, you're a mile away and you've got their shoes.". Ich mchte einen klassischen Film verwenden, die Tmax und Deltas fallen also raus. (meine Frau sagt ja, das sei alles nur Voodoo und dass man das mit dem Kippen auch getrost bleiben lassen oder komplett bertreiben kann. Except that if things go wrong then the monetary loss is greater with the more expensive film. I quit shooting Fomapan 400 because it was so scratch prone for me.Also, whats your Plustek workflow like Im thinking of ditching silverfast for vuescan, Im hearing vuescan makes for more neutral images because silverfast always wants to employ negafix profiles and rubbish like that (half the films I shoot dont even have a negafix profile). Whether thats true or not, it is widely known that Arista film (Freestyles house brand) is repackaged Foma; the Holga branded film sold by Freestyle is as well; and, Kosmo Fotos Stephen Dowling has been quite open about his ISO 100 film being Foma too. Yep, there are many reviews of Foma 400 on the net, and they often say that, shot at box speed and developed as recommended, its grainy, contrasty and lacks shadow detail, which is what pushed film looks like.I shoot a lot of it, all at 200. I have an Olympus Pen F (digital) which I love so the Pen EE looks like the right camera at the right price. sie glaubt, dass das sowieso immer gleich wird. Id also highly recommend Kentmere 100, which I didnt test here but still make use of quite often. 1. News, Tips & Reviews. The datasheets say that at 2, you should go with a 6 exposure. While we're discussing the Foma/Arista 400, yes it does seem grainy. Great article Simon! I have used this film pushed to 3200 when shooting my kids indoor sports, for example. ob es der neue oder der alte APX400 war? Hopefully this will be apparent when you look at the images below, which you can click on to get a closer look. Again, much of that comes down to personal taste, and what you want from your photographs. 2. 3 Retropan 320 Shot through Franka Sollida II. Shadow detail is close to non-existent in these situations, but I am usually happier with the look of these images. Trees dont move. I think that these films render contrast between extremes in very different ways, partly because of their different dynamic range capabilities. Having now revisited it with my more advanced skillset Im happy with the look it can offer, and have a better []. Upload or insert images from URL. 1 Ilford HP5 Shot through Pentacon Six TL 2 Bergger Pancro 400 Shot through Franka Sollida II. Film Comparison: Kentmere 400 Vs Fomapan 400. 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