lds ward council spiritual thought

A True Champion; Ronny's Buddy; CHASTITY. You can also subscribe without commenting. They dont plan very well. Assuming every participant is prepared (which is rare), assuming every participant is on time (which is rarer), assuming every participant is fully trained and well-experienced in his or her calling (which is even rarer and certainly wont last more than a week or two), yes, meetings can be efficient. People werent made for clocks; clocks were made for people. Thank you. At the hour mark, I politely excuse myself from the meeting. All were covered with wasp stings. Im open to better ideas, so write your own list and send it to me. Here's your daily dose of what matters most! #3 No administration allowed is a good thing to strive for, but it only works if the admin is actually accomplished outside of the meeting. That would work great for the stakes in Utah and Arizona where I used to live where the Stake Center is only a mile or two away. You cant rush the Lord. Mormon Beliefs and Teachings. Maybe what I am pulling from this isnt that people need to worry about time limits (yes they still do) .but need to be prepared. Great point! I agree. Or they are afraid to step outside the BOX! In 1989, Elder Boyd K. Packer warned young men and young women to avoid participating in dark spiritual practices, no matter the circumstances: "A warning: there is a dark side to spiritual things. The Lord has prepared ways for His children to be protected and loved, she thought. We expect perfect church meetings! The Relief Society president represents the women in the ward over the age of 18. Yeah, I think we agree more than we disagree. I know that when he is gone, it is for something to truly necessary and not for a meeting that is just for the sake of having a meeting. Does anyone have a file of successful agendas you use in your ward? The lack of following tech etquette IS destracting. Ive participated in meetings where, at the conclusion, participants couldnt believe how much time had passed because it felt like no time at all. Remember Life is a Test! The short story for me is to ignore the hyperbole of the article, and embrace the tips that make me a better meeting leader. No Round-Robin: Just because you are sitting in a circle doesnt mean you need to talk in a circle. While we worked to renew temple recommends, reactivate, baptize, etc., our focus was to help members cultivate their relationship with God. If the missionaries come with very prepared progress records and report the most important things and needs, then the other, less-important things can just be written on the progress record to keep the leadership informed. Yet in some ways, this idea wasnt the success the bishop had hoped for. So all of that speaks to the spiritual nature of this work and seeking for the inspiration to do what the Lord wants us to do. If things were crazy at home and his family needed more attention, one quick text message would free up his evening; as a counselor, he didnt have that luxury. All church leaders should go visit Toastmasters meetings! I think we need to do the best we can with what we have. So welcome to my ward council spiritual thought: I love to sing to country music! I am excited to hear of your success with your approach. Some geographies require a different balance. For the sake of brevity, and manners, I wont go into detail. 10 minutes max. I perceive the following mistakes as some of the main reasons: Though the title may sound negative towards meetings, the book is all about making meetings a place where work gets done and people want to be. Im not trying to push my ideas on anyone, Im just sharing them. Just as in Joplin, Puerto Francisco de Orellana, and Liverpool, Church leaders worldwide continue to discover the blessings of ward and branch councils. I have and it might be more isolated to my experience in working with ward and stake leadership. If you do not think that, Lord is it I?..look around the crowded room where everyone is smashed togetherhot, and uncomfortable. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is led by the First Presidency (a president and two counselors) and the Quorum of Twelve Apostles. My point. We just had a stake presidency meeting last night via video conference. Or week by week. Deeply entrenched in LDS culture, teachings, and scripture is the concept of councils as a primary tool for accomplishing the work of the Church. Ill follow up with their home teachers and see if theres anything we can do.. See more ideas about spiritual thoughts, church quotes, lds quotes. In these latter days, given the forces of the adversary and the darkness, no one person in the family and no one person in a ward is going to be the conduit through which all of the answers come. It comes when a youth leader has a candid conversation with a young man who trusts him. Kohai, Id love to have you do a review of the book and guest post on Leading Saints. The bishop should meet individually with those who need the most attention, helping them catch the vision and see how their behaviors and attitudes might be in conflict with the goals of the ward council meeting. is thinking.I could be out with my presidency visiting families. We are on fire!!! But many organizations outside of our church use committees very successfully! So much of the information shared is not needful for many in the room to even know! Its an opportunity for teaching and learning. Now having said that, there are things we can do that can make our meetings more effective and efficient, some of which were mentioned, but they are hardly unbreakable. By virtue of his keys, he has to acknowledge it and affirm it, but he doesnt necessarily have to be the only vehicle through whom it comes. We didnt have the luxury of sitting together so we had to prepare, prepare, prepare and my counselors had to take up much of the work. I agree that all too often, people sit in a meeting without activly thinking on what they or their organization could do to help or to solve a problem. "Cultivate an attitude of happiness. And remind people before the meeting what their assignments were. Ive experienced powerful, spiritual meetings that lasted well beyond the 61 minute mark. No one is required to atteng a meeting. Organizations had not been doing regular visits, despite repeated requests, invitations, etc., so he decided to own it at the ward council level while believing that it should have been owned by each organization. Im confident that If the First Presidency can decide whether someone excommunicated for polygamy can be rebaptized over a video conference that Ward Councils can figure it out as well. The young women could help with babysitting, said the Young Women president. But I think well all be better off going by the spirit instead. Have you ever tried to reorganize visiting teaching? Pam, I agree that ward council often descends into gossip. The ward council meeting is one of the most important meetings in the Church, wrote Elder M.Russell Ballard of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, because priesthood quorum and auxiliary leaders can discuss and plan with the bishopric. It should be a testimony, not a travel log. At times, moving mountains is easier than moving mindsets. Exactly, including the Bishop, RS President, EQ President, YW President, etc. Spiritual Crocodiles; FAITH. I have sat in wonderment at some of the things said about people. So the next item is understanding that we have to work with what we are givenwhich means whether youre a bishop or relief society president or EQ president or any other leader short comings abound but even the the greenest leader who does all they can to prepare spiritually will be able to give Council. I'm so excited to be able to serve my Lord and Savior to the best capacity I can. Unfortunately, I cannot agree with most of the things you have said. Do you have any source to back up this statement: The bishop isnt there to receive revelation; he is there to confirm revelation.? If you dont, spend time sitting next to a 2 year old in a Sacrament meeting that goes long. In Puerto Francisco de Orellana, an isolated village in the jungles of Ecuador, members have a strong bond of love and faith. No Downloading Information: Dont inform for the sake of informing. We have over half of our ward that is less active! For an interesting different take on things, I would suggest checking this book out (its out of print, so go to your local library or AMAZON for a used copy its cheap) and relate to Elder Bednars teachings about seeking inspiration to do what the Lord wants us to do. When autocomplete results are available use up and down arrows to review and enter to select. Can you help me reconcile Jensens statement with what your saying? When I apologized to the bishop, he told me to never apologize that my husband was were he needed to be. I detest meetings where there are no agendas. I get it. They make all of the decisions themselves! Handbook 2 (4.6) advisesward council should be 60-90 minutes in duration. I believe there are lots of different meetings and meeting agendas for different purposes that could be held in the church. Thanks for sharing. This meeting can last a couple of hours. IMPROPER CONTENTS. In a pinch, Ive been able to provide music without any hymn books available using my phone, and yes, it accidentally rang once while I was playing. Everyone is uplifted, it would be unifying, and then go home after 60 minutes. Been there, done that, experienced that! I love that quote you mentioned. Austin Today I went to Ward Council and gave the Spiritual Thought. If I had the wish of my heart, I would remove from the vocabulary of the Latter-day Saints the word meeting. I was concerned when my husband was called about the impact it would have on our family life. Spiritual Thoughts Spiritual Thoughts Thoughts during the work week to keep our minds on a positive train of thought, spiritually speaking, and thinking of God more than of ourselves. I believe many church meetings are a total waste of time. I had to bring out a 1993 book written by William G. Dyer (past BYU professor of organizational development) entitled Catching the Vision: Working Together to Create a Millennial Ward and compare his writings to this topic. Bishop, this will be our 3rd meeting this week; cant we just stay late tonight so that we can get through everything without losing another weeknight to meetings? I think meetings in the church are always a big challenge and a big issue. Unfortunately the next Bishops Council was the same. To say a meeting is never worth 61 minutes is putting artificial constraints on the spirit and leaders that are not appropriate. We had a response plan in place because we had talked about these preparations in ward council before they happened, he said. Thanks for your comment. Apr 18, 2021 - Explore Holly Thompson's board "Ward council spiritual thought", followed by 473 people on Pinterest. That is definitely a meeting that takes more than 60 minutes and you cant just stop in the middle when the timer rings. When she reached inside her bag for a notebook, she came across a picture of 28 Primary children on the steps of the Palmyra New York Temple. I have just received revelation to postpone our stake relief society evaluation meeting. Metrics (quarterly reports and key indicators) were touched on perhaps we could have done more of that. In time, the Bishop asked his counselors to have one-on-one discussions with ward council members to receive their candid feedback on the ward council meeting, specifically: One hundred percent of the responses were right in line with what he had hoped for: by this time, council members really wanted to spend meeting time discussing the progress of individuals and families. I want to use Ward Council as the model in this post, but this information can be applied to most meetings within the church. Weve been talking about a revelatory experience with the members of the ward council. They want the ward council to work together more often and elevate the ward in general; however, Im not sure if scheduling moremeetings is the answer. I have ventured to using the red handbook almost as a weapon to invite them to change and try something new to see how it would work but I have had ward leaders tell me how they dont care about the red handbook. by mcdarby Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:07 am. The bishop replied to his ward member that he did not have a watch with him the night before, but he knew he wouldn't need one. Seriously, if you havent figured out how to turn a meeting into a revelatory experience, just cancel it. Touch device users, explore by touch or with swipe gestures. You may be right, but I challenge you to find a way. "I want to know how God created this world. They wondered where to look, how best to help, and which church members had the right interests, skills and resources to rescue. If not you will hear in the halls of the Church buildings. Sixteen of those years included Bishopric meetings, either as an Executive Secretary, a Ward Clerk, or a Bishop's Counselor.. A missionary is released with a Stake President 10 min meeting and great job, so why do we need to take hours for them reporting to the High Council. Her perspective will be beneficial when the ward council is considering an issue that affects the children of the ward. The three things I cant stand most about meetings are: The following priesthood and auxiliary leaders attend the council in two capacities: (1) as ward council members who help the bishop find solutions to the needs and concerns of the ward and (2) as representatives of their organizations. For a moment, the picture pulled her attention away from the meeting, and she focused briefly on the day the ward Primary had gone to Palmyra to enjoy the sacred feeling of the temple grounds. I like tech and believe it helps me be more efficient. It comes via one-by-one ministry. I also think using email is a great way to help discuss items that dont require a formal meeting. Service (renamed from Care for the Poor and Needy in case a printed copy was discovered by a member whose name was listed there). It all seems a tad presumptuous that you should be able to state unbreakable rules about church meetings. Once a month, all ward council members and their counselors and secretaries gathered at the church. I dont believe the Spirit operates according to your unbreakable rules. Sometimes a person has been placed in a position that is designed to stretch them, they will be in above their heads and thats by design. I received a message from Elder Ward, one of the missionaries in my Ward yesterday morning asking me to checkout Twitter. But since we didnt get through everything on the agenda, were going to need to schedule another bishopric meeting. We would practice the art of running councils first in bishopric meeting. If you run a bad meeting, the only thing to increase is the eye-rolling. Ugh, meetings. Having these as goals is important, but if Bishop just isnt a good meeting leader, Ill cut him some slack, maybe try to help him out, and focus on what he does bring to the table. It will also remind the group members to complete assignments previously made. It is part of holding folks accountable. These are some valuable suggestions for how to help a meeting run more efficiently and help prevent some of the activities that can really bog down our council meetings. The primary work of the ward council takes place in living rooms where tears are shared and dried, and testimony is borne. Sometimes I think we forget that we are all Brothers and Sisters with lots of faults, warts, weaknesses, and imperfections! For a great book on how to create useful agendas, check out Boring Meetings Suck by Jon Petz. Wow, the comment is depressingly negative and in no way helpful to the discussion. Thats just an idea that really helped us to have more effective meetings. You can run ANY meeting in the world in an hour, if you know what youre doing. If someone on the council has reason to not come to the meeting or, quite frankly, doesnt want to be in the meeting, then they should have the right to not be there. Not every leader will be great at meetings, and in most cases, Ill happily trade lack of that skill, for the other gifts the Lord sent them to their calling to use. Required fields are marked *. As Melissa looked at the faces of the members of the ward council, she saw genuine affection and concern. A lot of time is spent oversharing information, relaying things that can be a quick text, and chatting. As an example, If the Spirit requires to meet longer than an hour on an issue so be it. The few Ive had to attend were 2- to 3-hour nightmares, so I agree with you on the time aspect. BOOK OF MORMON. Thanks for these great ideas. Required fields are marked *. Below is an outline of how our council was inspired to restructure the agenda your council could use this as a template or a starting place. And to strengthen the mind portion of their personal testimonies. Id encourage you to try it for a few meetings (or ask the presiding officer to try it). Id even go so far as to say that any meeting can be done in 30 minutes and Ill encourage you to try, but you can be comfortable with 60. Dyer asks readers to consider the questions Can the Millennium begin if the Saints are not prepared to live a millennial law? and What will our own wards and stakes look like and how will they function if we are seriously dealing with the question of becoming a prepared people? I strongly recommend studying the revised edition of President M. Russell Ballards excellent book Counseling With Our Councils.Deseret Book or Amazon. Without putting the lessons plans in this boxjust a couple of ideas. Offer nativity/creche exhibit (s) for viewing. We can't wait to see you in the morning! The last comment on rule 8I have sat through some meetings that droned on and onI have led meetings that I thought were droning on and onwishing that we could just finish. Ill make sure her visiting teachers let her know about the upcoming temple trip., Theyve got some hard things going on right now, added the elders quorum president. If my tech distracts you, get over it. Wow! We expect and sometimes we even demand! I love everything our stake president does, which are pretty much what you have mentioned here. The Young Women president seeks to strengthen the young women ages 12 through 18. This is a last-case action but provides for the key holder to train new council member in the rules of engagement, helping them learn to participate and operate in the desired ward council paradigm. Elder Oaks gave a definition back in April of 2014 when he said, Priesthood keys are the authority God has given to priesthood [holders] to direct, control, and govern the use of His priesthood on earth. In a ward council meeting, for example, the bishop is the one directing the meeting according to the keys he holds. Joseph F. Smith's Gratitude for Blessings. And yet the church handbook used to say all quorum presidencies go visit your members at least annually. LOVE. I have also sat through high council meetings that were 1 1/2 hours long and wondered where the time went. They areasked to. What was your favorite part of the event tonight? Priesthood and auxiliary leaders attend ward council meetings in two capacities: (1) as ward council members who help the bishop address needs and concerns in the ward and find solutions, and (2) as representatives of their organizations. But I do think he spent most of his time healing others, blessing others, cheering up others, encouraging, motivating, forgiving, looking for the good in others, living the gospel, and spreading the gospel. Am I getting cynical? So, just curiousif we truly see these as being revelatory experiences, then they should be treated similarly to our sacrament meetings. IF everyone is prepared it works very very well and everyone is happy! I have started a silent protest with my spouse. The leader needs to instruct the secretary, several days in advance, as to what should should be on the agenda and then the secretary can send the agenda out by e-mail, mail or whatever. It may well be time to re-revisit the tech options at hand. If admin gets done before the meeting, cancel the meeting. Find out (if possible) what keeps them from preparing, is it the timing of the meeting, is it circumstances at home and in the family. Plus it gave me a break from having to attend so many meeting! But if the meeting is consistently a revelatory experience, members of the ward councilwont dare miss it. Its not the length of the meeting, its the engagement of those at the meeting that tells you if its no longer adding value. This should also be discussed in General Conference as a topic! March 26, 2015 Cheshire Cat: Then it doesnt matter which way you go. You just might have to schedule a meeting specifically to address admin. His motto was Dont keep the faith Spread it!. He helped council members shift their focus to the general ward welfare, rather than tuning out when another council member addressed organization-specific items. A stake council includes the three members of the stake presidency, 12 high councilors and the stake clerk. Each companionship was asked to extend an invitation or challenge to those visited and be prepared to report at the next ward council. And lots of tools for having meetings that dont get used either. I have seen both sides of the fence and it is joy when people are prepared to have as Elder Bednar taught a revelatory experience . In an effort to do this, lets review the 7 Unbreakable Rules of Church Meetings. The tech I use helps me be a better leader, and not using it during meetings would make me much less efficient. To prepare to do that, challenge them to read all of the essays to be ready to answer questions when they come up. Don't subscribe Fighting against tradition and helping members open their minds may have been the most difficult step. Over time, participation and behavior should gradually improve. It seems there is too much left undone in too many callings these days. Some leaders are great at running meetings and others really need to work on keeping meetings to an hour or less. They love to micro-manage everything! They dont communicate very well with their counselors. Same meeting, same prayer and someone else struggles with it for several minutes. (2) when we discuss an issue but the leader in charge doesnt assign any action as a result of it; Among other callings, Mike served as a full-time missionary (Japan Tokyo South), early morning seminary teacher, elders quorum president, ward mission leader, and in multiple bishoprics despite his large, young family. I can truly say that the impact to our family life by this calling has been minimal. While Church leaders have not addressed Halloween in particular, they have addressed some Satanic practices associated with this time of year. We prayed and listened for answers, and they camethey always came. #11 Best Value of 2,333 places to stay in Gunzenhausen. Most of my experience is that the President/leader of the group doesnt truly utilize the Secretary/clerk. I think it was this thread that put me into the zone seriously. There is no other option of where to start than there. Ill add another thing. It is put in the hands of those who are entitled to revelation to lead. But I think well all be better off going by the spirit instead. (1) when an issue takes up time at a meeting that could easily (or even more effectively) be dealt with in an email; I am a Laurel class president and chair 1-2 meetings a month. So the council doesnt decide. On the night of May 22, 2011, amid the sound of blaring sirens, a massive tornado touched down in the heart of Joplin, Missouri, USA, destroying homes and lives. I serve as a stake executive secretary in Southern Spain, where the Church isnt that old (the country was dedicated in 1969). Elder Bruce R. McConkie's Last Talk. This is a sample of what it looks like with fake names. Here is a quick review of the book from the BYU Studies web site: If you run a good meeting, those whofollow you will be more willing to serve you. Friday, January 13, 2023 Thought for the Day 1/13/2023 Friday Tale - A Miracle Morning However, We are also a volunteer church and we have a volunteer lay leadership and not a trained professional ministry. Calendaring items are mentioned, but otherwise hardly discussed. If you dont give the meeting a time limit, it will grow out of control. Everything gets discussed but few solutions or plans of action are implemented. The Joplin First Ward was hit hard by the twister, but right away Bishop Chris Hoffman and the ward council started accounting for ward members. Some of the ideas are new to me and some I have been trying to bring into meetings for years without much success. When the vision is set by the key holder, then discussed and molded by the council, each contributing member of that council feels a sense of ownership, and their downstream activities will stem from the vision they helped create. In fact, He expects you not simply to face the future (that sounds pretty grim and stoic); He expects you to embrace and shape the future to love it and rejoice in it and delight in your opportunities." "God expects you to have enough faith and determination and enough trust in Him to keep moving, keep living, keep rejoicing. And also include the taskers and asignments from the meeting as well. A) Sacrament and Bishopric Planning Document - https . And then when things, meetings, members,and leaders fail to meet our expectations then we tend to grip, get disenchanted, gossip, and complain. A ward disciplinary council consists of four people: the ward's bishop and his two counselors and the ward clerk. One thing we wrestle with is it takes 60 minutes to get to the meeting, and 60 minutes to drive home from the meeting (literally). I realize that last minute changes occur but an annual meeting schedule could help solve so many problems up front. If you need more time, go talk to the Executive Secretary and schedule another interview. Id go to one of your meetings. In a Stake we would do some alternating. Plus, in meetings where there isnt a clear end in sight, it is easy to go over time AND I can see how it makes gossip more likely. They lack people skills, leadership skills, and tend to turn others off. We were removing a large oak tree from the roof of the Seminary Institute Director. 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