This is just another suposition made by humans who try to understand divinly inspired scripture with a flawed human mind. Thanks for taking the time to read and leave a comment. (Gen 3:5-8). Instead of adding our own ideas to Scripture and stating them dogmatically and demanding apologies from anyone who disagrees, perhaps we should learn to deal carefully with the word of God. Hi Warren, Once God addresses him, then Adam could say, I heard the sound of You in the garden (Gen. 2:10, ESV). I have been studying this part about god walking with Adam when I came across your post. This could be literally translated "the wind of that day." Some think this might refer to a strong wind. To be clearagain. I think your criticism of my article misses the mark. Yes, I do understand that God desires relationship with His peopleto walk with them as they walk with Him. Its not that the inferences are necessarily wrong, its that they should not be mistaken for the Word of God. You claim the following, which I label as CLAIM #1. . 10 For if, when we were enemies of God, we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life! You asked who they were conversing with. Theologians have long wrestled with the very concept of being made in Gods image. Thanks for reading and taking the time to share your thoughts. I believe this issue is often promoted by people with certain theological perspectives who want to show how much damage sin did to our relationship with God. 3:8). 3. It was part of the sad deception that the man and woman who wanted so much to be like God, rather than obtaining the stature of deity, are afraid even to commune with him. Regarding your logic in your blog post here, titled, Did Adam and Eve Walk with God in the Garden? It was perfectalmost. In each case, they are basing their ideas on something that isnt stated in Scripture. Third, Adams response at seeing Eve confirms the point: This is now bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh (Genesis 2:23). Mentions of Eden are also made in the Bible elsewhere in Genesis, in Isaiah 51:3, Ezekiel 36:35, and Joel 2:3; Zechariah 14 and Ezekiel 47 use paradisical imagery without naming Eden. Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts. We can speculate, contemplate, and imagine probable scenarios by referencing other relationships in the Bible, but in this day and time especially, we must be diligent and aware of the texts true contents. Required fields are marked *. To add to the post above, another theological consideration is the temple. CLAIM #1: As you supposed, God did provide water for the animals too. God speaks, asking Adam where he is. If you had bothered to read the post, you would have read these words: I was afraid because I was naked, so I hid.". when they heard God they hid from Him. Hebrews 13:8 God is the same yesterday, and to day and forever more. Regardless, my point is that Adam was familiar enough to recognized it was God. The ESV accurately captures Adams response in verse 10. I can see that cool of the day can be also be breath, spirit, or wind. 11 Not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. What if the coats of skin were actually human skin as we have now. This would have been after God made Eve and Adam awoke and uttered the words in Genesis 2:23. Lets consider this for a moment? Well done! I will make a helper suitable for him" ( Genesis 2:18 ). Adam and Eve got to literally hang out with God all day long, face to face. Garden of Eden story: summary. I think it would be odd for God to first come walking in the garden with Adam and Eve only after they had sinned. Christ exemplified the relationship that mankind should have with our heavenly Father and creator. Later after the fall of man, mankind lost the ability to see God physically save through the theophany. Although I agree, you simply cannot prove this one way or another, however I believe the scripture gives us enough evidence to assume with confadence, that Jesus did take a physical form and did actually, literally walk through the garden. What an absolute honor we have as human beings to be made in the image of the Creator and to be called to demonstrate who He is and what He is like. I to am searching regarding worship in OT times and wondered about Adam walking with God. who knows perhaps it was. And in Genesis 3:10 Adam heard that familiar sound (be it foot steps, voice, wind or otherwise) & hid. To say that life was good in the Garden of Eden would be an understatement. One fine, perfect Edenic day Eve was out walking. But God knew they had eaten the forbidden fruit. Now we do not see You any more. If the voice of God walking in the garden caused them to run and hide because of disobedience, sin, judgement. I even pointed out that when the Bible speaks of Enoch and Noah walking with God it should be understood in the figurative sense of them living godly lives (as opposed to taking physical strolls with Him). Ive heard far too many people claim, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the cool of the day. Thats simply false. That's why he was walking in the garden: he wanted to meet with Adam and Eve and spend time with them. Perhaps you should take a moment to read the blog post before commenting. No sowing or reaping for 3 years! My guess is that they would not have had nearly enough animals to eat over their forty year wandering. When the Lord made him on the sixth day, He commanded him not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Jack ~'()~ 12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned. (NASB) Gen. 3:8. When everything fell apart, so did the people. god wanted to walk (live) with them in an ongoing and fruitful relationship and the whole book of Leviticus shows them how to correctly walk with god. Of course, since God is capable of making physical appearances. As I mentioned in my conclusion, God certainly could have taken taken strolls with Adam and Eve, but the Bible does not directly teach this, and I have my doubts about it. Hi Jeff, It doesn't come before, which furthers the notion that God would have been content with them being without clothes, at least provided they didn't eat from the Tree. But your claim is based on only such a narrow standard. Thanks for the comment and for taking the time to read the post. God told them to be fruitful and multiply. Genesis 3:8-9 . Tim,I will have to agree that scripture does not state outright that God and Adam walked in the garden together on a daily basis, as many assume, however, the earlier verses in Genesis would seem to indicate that Adam and God did enjoy some sort of periodic personal interaction, such as when God brought the animals to Adam to see what he would name them, or when God gave Adam instructions regarding the work that he was to do in the garden, and what he was, and was not, supposed to eat, and certainly when God put Adam to sleep to remove one of his ribs. And then. In spite of being familiar with scripture, I never noticed that it doesnt exactly say this. When God gave commandments to Adam and Eve, he also granted them the ability to intelligently decide whether to keep that covenant from God, or choose to disobey God. What does it even mean? 9 And JEHO. God told them, "You may eat fruit from any tree, except one. ( Genesis 3:13-15) When looking at Genesis 3:13-15, there is no direct indication that the serpent had legs, only that its curse would be "on your belly you shall go.". He put the Man he had just made in it. I was scanning Gen 2&3 to use the text where God walked with Adam in the garden. 9 The Lord God called to the man and asked him, "Where are you?". I appreciate the encouraging words. Moses was only granted the backside of Jesus. When Eve gave birth to Seth (at age 130) she viewed him as a replacement for Abel. Did they do this daily, weekly, etc.? Adam said, I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself (Genesis 3:10, ESV). I agree with your conclusion that we should not assume that God was at Adam and Eves beck and call, coming around for a stroll whenever they wanted Him there, or that God spent considerable time fellowshipping with them in physical form as friends do. This walking refers to living a life that pleases God. Your article keeps us on the ever-important path of faithfulness. Notice that I said that I would argue that they are probably made in His image. I didnt claim that there was a clear cut and dry case that is beyond dispute. My argument wouldnt focus on the things you mentioned. It is not an issue of molester in the same room with a kid. He could have spoken out of a whirlwind to them and banished them from the Garden in that form. It bothers me that I have believed the Bible stated this, and that I have told other people it says this for so long, and I have read the first three chapters of Genesis so many times. Here is the verse in its entirety. Maybe He was physically there throughout the short time that they were in the Garden, but I have my doubts., By a plain reading, Genesis 2:7 and 2:22c reasonably are inferred to imply that the place where God formed Adam, and then Eve, was a place some way *outside* of the garden (and this place likely being that of the shore of a river or a sea). Have you ever wondered exactly how the conversation between God and Adam went down in the Garden of Eden? I decided to search the internet to see WHY people believe this. Or a young stag on the mountains of Bether.". Adam understood what God meant when he was given instructions because God made him with the ability to understand those things. When he made Eve, he took a rib, closed up Adams side with flesh and then he brought the woman to Adam. Just like when we will be fully glorified in the new age, we shall see God, because we shall be sinless then; Adam couldnt have hid himself from wind alone, there must be an accompanied physical presence that he knew about; When you follow the account of Genesis at that material time, its hard to think that God was just coming through the medium of wind, then why did he create man in the first place, if at all he didnt want the man to see him? Gen 18 - Abraham's discussion and bargaining with the LORD (YHWH) Ex 3 - Moses at the burning bush. Ed, Walking with god is living with god he makes it very clear how we are to walk with him. Please note that both boys were conceived and born after sin had entered the Earth. Then let the land rest on the seventh year right? Was it God walking or was it something different? They may have done that, and I wouldnt have any problem with it. Many people assume that this one verse is symbolic, as . Some people have inferred from this statement that they must have known what it sounded like to hear God walk in the Garden so they must have walked with Him before. The serpent Satan asked her how she was doing. Theres no definitive proof, but the passages implication seems clear to me. It seems likely that many people have just remembered some of the wording in this verse and assumed that it says Adam and Eve walked with God. So if we can claim that they walked with God in perfect communion before sin, then we can stress how bad sin is because we dont get to do that anymore. Much like those of us that have the infilling of the Holy Ghost and walk in the Spirit. I believe it is very important to know what is and isnt in the Bible. So they hid from the Lord God among the trees in the garden. I would be with this item all day and be close to me at nite. I know this article about Adam and Eve walking with God in the Garden is over 6 years old, but I just now discovered it. Canada AKA Commie Da under seditious King/Crime Minister Justin Trudeau!! Well, Jesus wasn't there with Adam and Eve in the beginning. God formed Adam from the dust and breathed His own life into the man (Genesis 2:7). It is definitely possible that the person in the Garden was the preincarnate Christ. "And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.". At the same time, Adam understood what God meant when He spoke to him, so there clearly was some preprogramming that occurred when God created him. Hi Tim 2 keep my sabbaths and reverence my sanctuary.3 IF YOU WALK IN MY STATUTES AND KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS AND DO THEM 4 then I will give you rain in due season and the land shall give her increase and the trees of the field shall yield there fruit. Who is this that would kill him? But we need to be careful not to assert that the Bible directly teaches this. Therefore, We also should not assume that God was at their beck and call so that He would come around for a stroll with them whenever they wanted Him there. 6398. Do you think the lord actually cares if pastors are saying Adam and Eve did walk with God? Not because I think Im right and feel holier than thou but it was just something burning in me saying NO. The Tree of Life was in the Garden was it not? I went to church this past Sunday and my pastor who is pretty good with the Word of God and quick to say if he is wrong said he had a revelation thats god ohyically walked with Adam and Eve and as he spoke my discernment clearly was NO THIS DID NOT HAPPEN. I think too often we read ideas into a passage that might be accurate, but then through the years, our interpretation of the passage is taken as a given that it must be true. they heard him rebuke them. While its within the realm of possibility that Adam and Eve were 60+ when expelled from the garden, I find it extremely unlikely. And I completely agree that where Adam failed, Christ prevailed. 5. Tim, thank you for your commentary. More than like, Cains wife was his sister, or possibly a niece. The Tree-of-Life was in the middle of the garden, also the Tree-of-Knowledge-of-Good-and-Evil. Genesis 3:8 ? God created Adam and Eve to care for His creation, populate the planet, and have a relationship with Him. The book of Genesis tells us that the Lord appeared and fellow-shipped with Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden (ch. I hope this helps. Adam and Eve. I worship in His presence and put off His presence! The article is not imposing a narrow standard that makes no room for inference or implication. Verse Concepts. Some scholars, such as J.J. Niehaus, have argued that the phrase translated as the cool of the day is better understood as referring a strong wind. Seasoned or mature believers should know the text, the text is the milk, living the text is the meat. I dont think its a matter of God wanting or not wanting to spend time with His creation, but more of a matter of how much time passed before they rebelled. Ive heard this, believed this, and repeated this on more than one occasion. I would argue that angels are probably made in His image as well,. Adam & Eve had been very naughty and they were hiding from the Lord!! Two things that they did see. However, I dont see how your final statement about the garden has any relevance. I have read the account of Creation, Adam and Eve, and the Fall so many times in my lifetime, but I just recently realized that the Bible doesnt say that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden. 15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. Just read John 1 it says God was there in the beginning and on earth in the flesh so just read the book. If you eat from the tree in the middle of the garden, you will die!". If you want to believe they did, thats totally fine with me. To spend time with Him. I think too many people are confused about what it means that something is directly stated, or implied, or that we might infer, etc. Hi Nucc, But the most beautiful thing of all was that they walked with GOD. Satan. I would assume that they drank goats milk during this time as well. they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the gardenThe divine Being appeared in the same manner as formerlyuttering the well-known tones of kindness, walking in some visible form (not running hastily, as one impelled by the influence of angry feelings). Yes this is almost like apples and oranges because our parents are here in physical form but just trying to make a point and the Bible clearly says no one knows what God looks like except His Son . Like a child jumping in his fathers arm as he comes home from work. They hear a sound. #1. However, that fact has very little to do with whether He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. Im sure the water God supplied was for the animals as well as the people. Second, Eve was made from Adams rib (or more accurately side), indicating that they both had physical bodies (Genesis 2:21). Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked, so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves. You could be hiding with the Lord standing (figuratively speaking)right in front of them, and they wouldnt know. They will live forever, and as well see in the coming chapters, some of them have been given dominion over certain things. Since the Bible doesnt make this claim, its impossible to know for sure where people get the idea from. Why? God Was Angry. If Im narrating a scene, I can write that the main character heard a certain sound (e.g., an approaching truck or an army on the march) before the character realizes what it is that he is hearing. What do you think?? From this view, Adam and Eve were with God in the Garden for a whileand they had the privilege of regularly hanging out with Him. Tim. It is very possible that the angelic beings are also made in the image of God. For the record, I strongly reject such a notion. They heard God's approach as a terrible wind that lashed the trees of the garden, and they took cover. Hi Sam, Adam and Eve's Separation from God . The texts of Genesis 1-3 outright tell us ONLY what is necessary for our understanding of the events from Creation to the Fall, not of side issues that mean nothing for a proper interpretation of these texts. So again, lets not be naive to think that God didnt spend time with them! One of those commandments was as follows: "And the LORD God gave this command to Adam: 'You may freely eat from every tree in the garden, except you must not eat of the tree of the knowledge of . Weve arrived at a very similar conclusion very recently that Adam and his wife or help-meat very possibly disobeyed their creators command not to eat of the fruit of tree in the midst of the garden the first day they were placed there. I too have always heard that God walked with Adam & Eve in the cool of the day every day. My post simply raises the possibility that He may have used something similar to the whirlwind of Job 38:1. Adam and Eve were the first human beings, from whom every other human being descends. If he was just manifesting himself in a strong wind, there would be no need to use the word walking. It doesn't say they viewed God with their eyes. God bless you. We read that God planted a garden and placed Adam there to tend it ( Genesis 2:8, 15 ). Answer (1 of 21): The context once again gives the answer. With that in mind, what makes you say, from the text of Genesis, that the phrase translated cool of the day would be better translated a strong wind? If strong wind is the better translation, when prior to this event did God manifest himself to Adam and Eve in a strong wind in such a way that when they heard the strong wind on this occasion, they knew instantly that it was the sound of God? " (John 1:18) . Haha very eye opening. I looked in Genesis, Psalms and even searched for New Testament references. #2 They both "saw" their nakedness. It saddens me to let go of the notion that God would hang out with them in the cool of the evening. Im not really sure how your comment addresses Eds point at all or anything in the article. God had told them to be fruitful and multiply (Genesis 1:28). We cant know because the Bible doesnt speak to this at all. 00:00. One of my Bible study ladies commented about the command to not eat of the fruit lest they die as possibly being a mystery to Adam and his wife. 00:00. I think for me it comes from the song In the Garden, it is a peaceful way to think God is walking with us. Here is a link to the Wikicommons page showing that this illustration is in the public domain: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png. It says, "they heard the sound of God walking in the garden", and, " they hid themselves from the presence of the Lord. All the details of exactly how god walked with them are so plain to see that blind Freddy can see it. There are many, many Christians who have heard and taught that Adam and Eve physically took walks with God in the garden before they sinned. The first words recorded from Eve are from her encounter with the serpent. Whirlwinds dont speakunless it is God appearing in that form. I am not disagreeing and saying that Gods reason for coming was not to proclaim judgment, I am disagreeing by saying that we can not say for sure what Gods reason was for coming, Scripture doesnt clarify. God bless you. This post isnt about whether they enjoyed fellowship with Him prior to sin and walked with Him in a metaphorical sense. I dont recall a specific instance of this, but since the promised land was repeatedly spoken of as a land flowing with milk and honey, I take that to mean that their flocks would thrive and they would have an abundance of milk (in addition to honey and more). Did you notice something else about the way people typically define the image of God? He is eternally begotten of the Father, one with the Father, in essence, but he had not yet become flesh. If the idea being conveyed by the text is a strong wind then this scene was probably quite similar to the way God spoke to Job, as I mentioned in the article. He was there, He is everywhere and He was always with them. It is also the case that Adam and Eve had been commanded by God to "be fruitful and multiply, and fill the Earth" (Genesis 1:28). Genesis 3:8. Thanks for the kind response. The natural connotation, to me, is that God often did this, perhaps daily in the cool of the day, but what was remarkable this time was that man was afraid, because he had sinned. They hid when they heard God; however it was that they heard Him. And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden Genesis 3:8. Tim, thanks for striking the axe at the root of this human imagined concept. However, most people inevitably mention . Keep up the good work brother, the TRUTH shall be the only thing that sets us free. As you know, I couldnt find it. It would be accurate if the point of my article was to claim that Adam and Eve did not walk with God in the Garden prior to sin. Personal fellowship with God is at the very heart of our purpose for being! The same (principle) applies to the natural reading of anything: that according to the thing itself. He never showed him self He when He was showing himself to Moses and the others He revealed himself to in some other form. The only time we see Eve converse with God in Scripture is after she ate the fruit and hid with Adam among the trees of the garden. Genesis 2:15-17 doesn't provide many details, 15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it. Genesis 3:2-5. I just want to offer a thought about Cain and Abels ages. They forgot about God. We must know that Eve and Adam's life in the Garden of Eden was beyond happy. (Gen. 3:8) Adam is placed in the garden to "cultivate (abad)" and "keep (samar)" it (Gen 2:15). Hello Tim, I honestly do not understand why you are so hellbent on trying to make a point of saying that Adam and Eve did not walk with God? In all likelihood, it comes from a misunderstanding of or making an inference from Genesis 3:8: And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day (NKJV). The difficulties of translation, plus inevitable translator bias, can complicate getting a true understanding. This verse appears immediately after our first parents rebelled against the Creator. However, I also notice in chapter 2 that Adam recognized God speaking (commanding) to him concerning the forbidden tree. In Job, God spoke out of the whirlwind. There were two special fruit trees in the garden: The Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge. But what did they actually hear that made them afraid? After Adam and Eve sinned, God found them hiding from Him as He was walking in the Garden. But it would be nice for you or someone else to show me where the Bible ever makes that claim. 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