Figure 47c shows a table or bench with several Police Lugers and accessories and particularly interesting in the foreground is a muzzle protector, next to three training rounds. view 2 and with LANDESPOLIZEI [7] (State Police) FR WRTTEMBERG-HOHENZOLLERN[8] marked on the Mauser - Oberndorf, Germany&break;5. A rare DWM-made Model 1906 9mm para made for the Tsarist Russia contract. 5.6 (Cleaning Kit 34) pictured (Fig. Still. Bayern (Bavarian Police Defense Force), Identification of individual units or independent centuria within an slides open to reveal five compartments containing: Hand written in pencil on the top front edge and bottom of the box is Schllhorn, which oddly, translates to cable puller. Example 1. Das gibt ihm den inneren halt, das ruhige Uustreten in der Dessentlichteit, den sicheren Erfolg und damit eine gesteigerte Dienstfreudigteit und Liebe zum Berufe. It is interesting to note that this is the only published example of a Schutzpolizei Hannover Police holster so marked. Pictured is a 1941 dated OTTO SINDEL BERLIN police holster with an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp; view 1, Luger DWM 1906 Navy, 9mm, 2nd issue. WaA107 Mndungsschoner, circa 1934 1937, Pictured is another variation 1 muzzle protector in the collection stamped 2866. unidentified police marking that has been partially obscured and covered with X marks and a small, unidentified police inspection stamp. made LP.08 holster, cut-back modified/converted in the Weimar era for use with a police P.08, 4-inch barrel Luger. Inter-war Commercial Lugers (both rework and new manufacture); all Police models (both rework and new manufacture); and all Dutch and Finnish Lugers are of particular interest. According to August Weiss these were used 'as is' on pistols assembled by Mauser and which were exclusively sold to the German Police. The fourth is a very early 3-digit, circa 1930 production DWM/Mauser commercial/Police Luger serial number 873V. links[5]='http://www.wwiidaggers.com'; subcommissions and left Germany during January 1927. WaAJL16. 19-130 text caption Sturgess specifically states that the cleaning rod pouch of the pictured cut-back artillery to police holster, currently of the LOB collection, was modified to carry the police cleaning rod with added brass stopper, which is inaccurate as the police brass stop cleaning rod with a seven ring wooden handle cannot be inserted past the added, upper leather cleaning rod pouch section, securing cover flap brass stud as the bell-shaped, rather large 13 m/m diameter brass stopper, permanently affixed to the much smaller 5.5 m/m diameter of the steel cleaning rod, engages the protruding internal metal retaining lip of the added cleaning rod pouch brass stud. Was it a difference in caliber or what is obvious that I am missing. Interestingly, that is maybe why the upper brass stud was added to the subject cut-back unidentified maker Artillery holster, simply to allow the cleaning rod cover flap to close over the cleaning rod handle, as the cover flap secured to the lower brass stud is clearly stressed, even without an inserted cleaning rod and definitely could not close with an inserted cleaning rod. 3 5 im Buch II hat mich herr Polizeihauptmann Baetsch, Ministerium des Innern, in liebenswrdigster Meise unterstutzt, wosr ich ihm an dieser Stelle meinen herzlichsten Dant ausspreche. 2 Policing Germany, including Police Unit Marks Chapt. Below, a muzzle protector is shown attached to a Mauser Oberndorf Luger, s.n. In der Organisation der Polizei sind Unordnungen von einschneidender Bedeutung fr die Regelung der einzelnen Polizeiartenergangen, ohne das der Uusbau dieser fr das Staatsleben so wichtigen Finrichtung schon zum Ubschlus gefommen wre. Feedback. This statement appears to be somewhat contradicted, where earlier on page 1262 Fig. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN marked police holster with a Weimer era Sunburst K police inspection stamp; view 1. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 10 ----------------------------------------------------------. The E/WaAJL16 is, by all accounts to date, similar to, or a variation of, the acceptance stamp for Factory Guard/Werkschutz issue. 355. 1074." or Schultzpolizei Mnsterwith pistol number 10742and post 1934 by adding a magazine safety. Signed & Numbered by both authors. On later production guns, matching numbered magazines enhance value. This is division marked WW3009=Wilhelmshaven Dockyard gun #3009 on the back strap. Pictured for comparison are examples 1 and 2. Still and as illustrated in a very rare 1930s Walther advertising brochure titled: WALTHER POLIZEI-PISTOLEN PP / PPK und ihre Handhabung and an equally rare 1936 Walther PP/PPK 50 year commemorative flyer. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Akah made commercial holsters in the 1920s and 1930s with some used by the Germen Polizei. 3 5 in Book II, Police Chief Baetsch, Ministry of the Interior, kindly supported me, for which I would like to express my warmest thanks to him. period and evaded restrictions placed on them. The lower underlined rear cover statement of both volumes translates to: Furthermore, all books required for the use of the police schools in all areas of knowledge on the most favorable conditions are to be obtained from the assortment of the next edition. Below are some other HZa manufactured holsters and Ingolstadt marked parts. links[6]='http://www.cashicollection.com'; Luger Holsters & Their Accs., P137 Bahnschutz holster, M. Morris. It is interesting that the well-known Luger dealer that sold the Sturgess cut-back LP.08 holster had to be aware of the cleaning rod issue as the text description, while generally describes the changes to the holster cleaning rod pouch, tactfully avoids the obvious fact that a police cleaning rod with a brass stopper will not fit. Pictured is a period photograph of three Nazi Police officers with round Gott mit uns marked belt buckles with the Police officers on the left and right side with black leather belts and the center Police officer with a white colored belt. This is a 9mm Luger manufactured by DWM for the Riff Tribe in Morocco. Although, looking like a post 1926 type 2 police holster, being stamped on the rear with a P.08 serial number 1108 located on the rear panel in the upper right corner, usually associated with police holsters, it has an army E/WaAJL16 stamping. $4,495.00 $4,045.00 Compare had 96 or 98 mm long barrels, and also only the 7.65 mm caliber. Based on the ratio proportion of the three rounds next to the muzzle protector, indicates that the pictured muzzle protector is the smaller or shorter length spring-loaded variation 1 example, not the variation 2 longer length, not spring-loaded, 4mm; excellent bore, 5'' barrel insert for Luger pistols chambered in .30 Luger (7.65mm Parabellum), two known examples of a muzzle protector used by the Wehrmacht or German army. The corner of the grip was removed to allow the safety to function. This was the largest of the HZa's and located in Bavaria. The police officer is therefore faced with the varied expenses. We got our hands on one of the original MCXs for some testing. Faint illegible ink stamp inside the flap (Zeitz?). As to the luftamt I do not know, but the Army HZa's still equipped the Luftwaffe and Waffen SS, so it makes sense. If it is made after 1918it is a reproduction. steel rod with brass muzzle stop for 4-inch barrel P.08 Luger pistols with While lacking a rear horizontal stitch line, the holster body cavity rear panel is secured at the lower edge by the lower belt loop stitching. You may have been hiding under a rock if youve not yet heard of the new SIG Sauer MCX Spear. allow citizens to protect themselves from looters, armed gangs, and regulations issued in 1930, and are shown in the following table. Sind viele Uenderungen aus dem Gebiete des Staats=, Polizei= und Strafrechts eingetreten. A very similar style of eagle can be found on Gewehr 98 rifles. We know now that it was DWM who started the v block. Hierdurch werden die jungen Polizeibeamten vor neue Uufgaben bgestellt, die sich um so schwieriger erweisen, als die neue Polizei nicht nur die Gesahren politischer und wirtschastlicher Kmpse abwehren, sondern vor allem ihrer eigentlichen frheren Tatigfeit zugesuhrt werden foll. eagle proof differs from recognized Police Luger eagle stamped holsters, which are usually not associated with E/WaA control numbers. A 108 is found in the upper right backside corner, what could be considered a Police serial marking? Note: Black scabbard & frog is city. It is speculated that the shift was also motivated by the need to communicate with occupied territories during WW2 and the use of Fraktur would inhibit that communication. It is, therefore, hard to imagine that the lower positioned brass stud, affixed to the original cleaning rod pouch/sleeve, despite its thicker base, is a replacement of non-German origin. Per Weimar Lugers by J. 1920-1933: DWM Lugers. aware or familiar with that accessory, which is understandable, as TBLAP Sonderwagen-Staffel, gun 5, V. Prussian Police (Schutzpolizei), 1932. I figured out the other markings from earlier posts. out and what appears to be a Nazi issue number 522 added to the scabbard metal throat and bayonet handle cross-bar. Pictured is a brown leather 1935 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with an eagle over circled K police inspection stamp and P08 pistol issue number or serial number 7307; view 1, Weapon no. German Army. The results cause us collectors no end of confusion, 78 years later. the folded-over or closed holster body toe of the pictured 1924 example that twin belt loops were added to the holster rear. new style of police holster was introduced without a holster spine attached cleaning rod sleeve, replacing it with a spare magazine pouch. These cut-back, modified/converted artillery LP.08 holsters are discussed in Weimar Lugers by J. There are at least two examples, as of this writing of a cut-back artillery Luger holster, where there is no doubt that a multiple conversion was done for, and specifically assigned to, and marked by the German Police. SOLD - 1921 DWM Luger - Police Rework $1,950.00 Availability: Out of stock SKU 89661 - 15966 Next/Previous Description 6/4/21 - This is a nice example of a rare 1921-dated DWM Luger. Eagle/L proofed aluminum bottom magazine is not. Police Lugers: German Police Lugers & their markings, 1918-1958 by Tinker. document.write('
'). The original brown leather holster was probably dyed/swabbed black, at this time, to conform to regulations. Police Lugers by Edward B. Tinker & Dwight Gruber This book has some very interesting chapters that many other luger books do not have. Pictured is an unknown maker German Police The holster conversion was similar to the below example 2 except that it is stamped on the rear with the original holstered police Luger serial number 5008, and fortunately the holster still retains the matching 5008 serial number stamped loading tool. The 1920 dated and double dated rework Lugers (DWM and Erfurt) are in the "Lugers - DWM Commercial 1898-1929" Gallery. Stay in the know. Note the non-standard vertical location of added metal belt buckle and strap/keeper cover flap holster, the subject cut-back artillery LP.08 holster to P.08 holster police marked, the bottom edge of the holster body inner liner, Pictured is a WW1 P08 army holster modified to a Police holster in the 1920s, whereas other identified, non-holster Hannover markings, such as Police P08s. Pictured is a brown leather example with regulation holster body attached holster body spare magazine pouch with up-strap and cover flap keeper slit and steel stud closure. There is a Luftwaffe Eagle 2. 3 Arming Weimar Germany, including Weimar Police Lugers, the Sear Safety, the Magazine Safety, profiles of Weimar Police Lugers, Police holsters, Police Magazines and Police tools & miscellaneous. And in closing, a little German Police marching music Hoch Deutschland Marsch Hermann Richter Grosses Blas-Orchester der Schutzpolizei Berlin. The police officer is therefore faced with the varied expenses. Taming the SFAR: How Ruger's Small-Frame .308 Runs Suppressed. All Luger pistols, produced by DWM after 1922 and until 1928(?) Based on the wooden box style of the two examples, and the identical text font size and styles, that there are more of these cleaning kits with identical contents and that they are all, most likely made by the same German manufacturer. arms of this police force were a source of comflict with the IMKK, who As always, I'm not responsible for any inaccuracies in the data, just for Pictured is an (officers) Upper Silesian "Landespolizei" buckle. German Police Lugers and their markings 1918-1958 by Edward B. Tinker and Dwight Gruber; 2012 I am interested in the following symbols on the bottom side of the magazine, too. You might remember that I was looking for the destination of 2,760 Luger pistols; having 98mm - 7.65mm barrels that came from Berlin to Oberndorf. The markings on the right side shows that this P08 was manufactured in 1939 by Mauser, Oberndorf and used by POL izei (Police). "Jt" being the abbreviation for the Ingolstadt HZa. In the TBLAP, Fig. Prussian Police (Schutzpolizei), 1922. Description. unmarked commercial Police style holsters have been identified. German manufactured commercial holster, original pistol model unknown, as identified by ink stampings located on the inside cover flap, WALTHER POLIZEI-PISTOLEN PP / PPK und ihre Handhabung, an equally rare 1936 Walther PP/PPK 50 year commemorative flyer. regulations issued in 1922, and are shown in the following table. Click here for English translation. The pistol is fitted with a set of checkered walnut grips. stands for. Bie der Reubearbeitung des Kap. They sure set off a display real nice. Pictured is one such P08 police grip strap example, compared against variation 1 muzzle protector 2866, where no additional marks were added. Weimar Police photos of what looks to be all NCO personnel with ordinary belt buckles. 18: . A very similar style of eagle can be found on Gewehr 98 rifles. Note that the first photo posted by Ron has the same missing corner. Eagle over 83 is the marking for the responsable acceptance office for Mauser (WaA83). Polizei-Verwaltung Halle A/S.=Police Administration Halle A/S. Ordnance Department in August 1901 for troop trials with the U.S. Cavalry, Match it with this DWM Model 1900 American Eagle Luger, DWM Model 1902 Luger Semi-Automatic Carbine Rig. formed mostly from former servicemen. When found, the holsters are generally expensive, even in fair to poor condition. $500. Pictured is a 1941 dated SCAMBACH & Co BERLIN brown leather police holster with an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp; view 1, view 2, view 3 and view 4. Post the transcription. Below is the translated Introduction section of Volume I. Mit der am 6 Ottober 1920 durchgefhrten Umbildung der Polizei hat die sachloche Zustndigfeit der neuen Polizei eine erhebliche Frweiterung ersahren. the interpretation of German unit marks is outside the scope of the It is described as "Berlin Police Armory Acceptance Stamp. The most important feature of this manual is the inside cover statement and page 1 which translated represents the total Denazification of the German Police by the East German Soviet occupation force with the text or message containing some rather subdued implied warnings. Police arms had a Igorak89 Member Posts: 35 Joined: 03 Oct 2013, 10:01 Location: Serbia Re: Luger markings identification - help be a very rare, late date for a second conversion of a WW1 artillery holster to a P.08 style, police unit marked holster. These discussions have taken place by numerous collectors in the pages of. however, it is the opposite, since both variation 1 and variation 2 muzzle protectors have been aftermarket replicated. The Ingolstadt HZa was the only one to have a production code, I believe it was "jlj." All P-08 Military Lugers. Pictured is a black dyed 1933 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era (1929-36) Sunburst police inspection stamp and P08 pistol issue number S.E.I. It cites 1644 of the 49th centuria within II command, Dusseldorf (S.D. "The Flag does not fly because of the wind that blows it. Can anyone tell me what the Me. of "P". Pictured is a brown leather 1935 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a TP or Technische Polizeischule property stamp and P08 pistol issue number or serial number 7691;view 1, view 2 and view 3. The is a 9mm, all matching police luger. Interestingly, the cut-back artillery to purportedly, police conversions with toe plugs rarely have added twin belt loops. Note the non-standard vertical location of added metal belt buckle and strap/keeper cover flap holster vs. the regulation positioned and angled location of Example 2. [11]. There are impression lines around this WaA both top and bottom where the edges of the stamp have struck the leather. P.08 police Luger pistol, serial number 9140e is stamped on the back as well. This 1943 dated police holster represents the last year Germany made all leather Police holsters. The German purpose about HIPO was clear: To help Gestapo as a Danish helping-police. The E/Mg10 is thought to be the inspector stamp or proof marking used at this depot. The Germans used the letter "J" instead of "I" quite often to avoid confusion with the number "1." I agree with Pat on the PTV marking. Hard to find historic variation. 2. The added belt loops are based on two other, more extensively converted artillery to police holsters discussed below. section slot then, 2) inserting Here are the rare Lugers (PHOTOS). The Shah ordered 1,000 four-inchers and another 1,000 of these bad boys in 9mm. The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols book publications picture and describe cut-back artillery Luger holsters as specifically modified for police Luger carry, there are no Luger book published, period pictures of German Police with a cut-back artillery Luger holster, nor with any standard, non-police P.08 type Luger holster. [5] The S. M. 1074 markings are crossed-out with an X punch and re-stamped, positioned perpendicular at the forward gripstrap toe with an added Ostsee property number O.1057. The serial number for the pistol is 4801 with a suffix of "t" which was mentioned as one of the possibilites by Ron. the ministry's Official Directory provides clear, concise and easy-to-understand information to the police officers about their own rights and duties and how they are to deal with the daily demands of the service. 45a and in The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols a.k.a. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 12 ----------------------------------------------------------, Pictured is an exceptional example of one such Police officer private purchase, unmarked and unmodified Weimar era Police clamshell dress bayonet. There was an identical Zeitz marked holster offered for $695 on the web site of a major Luger retailer, however, stating in the description, specifically, that the holster is a WW2 police issue: ">WW2 police issue. The missing upper left corner of the left grip is part of the mag safety modification. By signing up you agree to Guns.com's 3 days Left DWM 1906 SWISS POLICE LUGER SEMI-AUTO PISTOL. back-side attached single, horizontal leather stock block strip and removing the center block. When identified, either gold or silver, some dated and maker marked, these Prussian State Police belt buckles are described as officer belt buckles and this is somewhat supported as many pictures exist of Weimar Police with ordinary belt buckles. 1920. Choose whether you want the sealed, opened box, or the marking stamp. WWI History after Treaty of Versailles: German production of 9mm pistols was prohibited. ad[4]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/oldbrigade.jpg'; An examination of the P. Braunleder Cln cleaning rod pouch/sleeve brass stud shows a completely different shape of style and size of either of the two different lower and upper brass stud shapes of the subject cut-back Artillery to Police holster. Holster front view pictured with P.08. Pictured is a Police Luger with chain and connected brush in barrel. 13. The seller states that: It is said this marking was used to indicate issue to security guards at military installations. This is an apolitical forum for discussions on the Axis nations and related topics hosted by the Axis History Factbook in cooperation with Christian Ankerstjernes Panzerworld and Christoph Awender's WW2 day by day. -techn. (he Americans actually did the same thing as most American Regiments did not have a "I" Company, but skipped from "H" Company to "J" Company) Constanzo got this one completely wrong, and the marking is definitely from the late '30's not '20s, and please disregard nonsense about the building # assignments. Mfg Part Number. SIG Sauer MCX Review: Next-Gen Modern Sporting Rifle? An examination of another cut-back Artillery to Police holster in the LOB collection, dated 1915 made by P. Braunleder Cln challenges the above conclusions regarding the upper and lower brass studs. In fact, the majority of the pistols having a SN between 1v and 524v were produced and proofed in Berlin. 1933-1945: Mauser Lugers. Apparently, as to whether to modify the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve and or cover flap of a cut-back Artillery to Police holster to accommodate a Police cleaning rod is necessary, all depends on the availability multiple makers of used and unused WW1 Artillery holsters to different Artillery holster leather makers in 1920s Germany that were available to a host of leather craftsmen to be refurbished for Police use. stamping for another letter or number, but since the upper portion of the left side rectangle enclosure line is partially obscured by the steel washer, resulting in a light stamping, missing a possible letter or number, which is a result of stamping too close to the underside washer, securing the cover flap steel stud. August Weiss states further that the 'Riff' lot was produced by DWM late 1927 - early 1928. police cleaning rods, describes them as: Original Still 1993, page 174, Figure 45a, the below pictured holster is an LOB example of the first style, first pattern, pre 1925 new manufacture Weimar era, unmarked police holster. It is also pictured as part of a police grouping consisting a period 1928 dated Police manual titled: 1928 Nr.7,1 Vorschrift fr die Waffenausbildung der Shutzpolizei or 1928 Nr.7,1 Regulations for the weapons training of the Police and an excellent condition example of the earliest new manufacture, pre-1925 first pattern, Weimar era Police Luger holster along with a 1929 Police Luger, rear gripstrap marked L.W.58 (Landjgerei Wiesbaden, weapon number 58) with original, unmodified magazine and sear safety and an extremely rare circa 1930s Prussian State Schutzpolizei Police Nickel Silver or Maillechort belt buckle marked FREISTAAT PREUSSEN or Free State of Prussia. Most of these went to the German Police. Pictured is a 1943 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN police holster with a unique eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police B inspection stamp; view 1, view 2 and view 3. The ERMA marked variation 2 muzzle protector seems most apt for the 4mm sub caliber training assembly. If the blank toggles are related to the Riff contract, they would have been manufactured in or before 1926. Used by Police forces guarding warehouses operated by the Heerszeugment. This book contains English translations of the actual regulations issued Pictured are a few examples: Since the HZa used the WaAJt instead of the HZaJt stamp, I would suspect it was a new made item and not a reissued piece. 19-130 pictures a cut-back LP.08 holster with a text caption, specifically and unequivocally, stating that the holster cleaning rod sleeve was modified by addition of a wider top section and second stud to accommodate the long Police cleaning rod with soldered on travel stop i.e., if a police cleaning rod with brass stopper wont fit the original cleaning rod sleeve, what difference would it make, dimensionally, to extend the length and not the diameter of the holster body leather cleaning rod sleeve? collar assembly to be aligned with forward main This information came from a small book I have named The Luger Handbook by Aarron Davis. View 1 and view 2. The leather, stitching and markings are complete. pistols were rejected at the acceptance procedure it would explain that these were replaced with some pistols in the v block. German: German Mfg. Made by Mauser in 1936 for German Army. The left side of the slide has a Crown/N insp proof. This holster is seldom found and is considered very desirable by collectors. This is particularly believable as this holster was not for a primary combat activity. No examples noted. As to what district the holster was first used is indeterminate, however, Berlin would be the most likely prominent district based on the external location of the Police marking. During the Weimar Era, German police power remained decentralized. Since this ammo is rare, it is considered to be collectible ammunition. were issued to. The press scolded for its frequent use of "Roman characters" under "Jewish influence" and German migrs urged to use only "German script". HIPO as well as Gestapo had their informers. 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