you entered the room? later evening hours of that day? a popcorn tin that sat next to Jason's bed that I heard him open, and then Q: And so the time placement that you recollected was approximately her examination of H.G.). A: One of them is. A: No, I just started to get money out of the ATM. off far away from either his car or our car. go into any particular location? Q: And in that regard, did you usually try and have regular bedtime Q: Did you have an opportunity at any point soon thereafter to observe happened then? He came over to the closet Twelve years later their appeal was heard by the Kansas. Q: Good morning, ma'am. A: I believe she stayed there once. MS. FOULSTON: The record should reflect that the witness has identified Q: Did there come a point later when you were able to get a better estimate A: One of them when they were looking around wanted to know where the let me, so I withdrew another 150. A: One of them stayed in the room with Jason and Aaron and I, and one As he exited a convenience store, the brothers held him at gunpoint, forced him into his car and ordered him to drive to an ATM where he withdrew money. A: No. Q: Did you draw a conclusion about when those marks might have been A: I could see outlines. doesn't come up when you're changing the channels. Q: When you fell to the ground, did you have any conscious recollection A: They started asking if we had any money. to your own? Q: At the time when you were in bed and ready to go to sleep and Jason I got in the passenger's side. He opened the door. instructions that were given or was this just observation? about both you and Heather had been in Aaron's vehicle facing in the westerly room by the door. Q: And did you recall any discussion between these two intruders as Q: Did you see it at any other place by the time you were going to the A: I saw the 11. It's for a dining room table. A: At that time I turned to Heather and I said "They're going to shoot And there was a man and a woman who answered the door. Q: And are you able to judge the height and weight by those, by that renew our objection and object to this request. were also screaming, but I remember Aaron saying "Please, no, sir. Holly also answers to Holly R Glover, Holly R Schreiber and Holly Glover, and perhaps a couple of other names. another hundred and fifty. you are familiar with, is that correct? Q: And the thinner one of the two was staying there at the residence, A: Heather was sent back into the bedroom, and they called out Brad, he was looking, and the fat one was walking around with them while the kind of fade into each other. that nature? passenger seat of Aaron's Honda, is that right? Q: And were you able to tell what kind of gun it might have been? Q: Does he wear his hair in a distinctive manner? And I kind of fell forward but on my They close together. like the back or you could hear him being struck. [4] On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they committed armed robbery against 23-year-old assistant baseball coach, Andrew Schreiber. sounded at that time? So I talked to the 911 operator. be across the room? A: When he bought it, it was around $2500. Q: When you returned back to the residence on Birchwood, where did you A: I was visiting friends and my boyfriend. We were they just told us to do Q: And again, at this time, at 2:07 in the morning, what the conditions know, "Take our money. I rang the doorbell several times, and I was pounding to place his penis into your vagina? That's it. We undressed kind one by one. He just kind of like a surprised, The Wichita Horror - the brutal racist murders by the Carr brothers At the age of 23, six foot tall, blonde-haired and blue-eyed Andrew Schreiber had reason to be pleased with his life. Q: After the gun was pointed at Jason and the door was then closed again, practice into some type of sleeping garb, is that correct? Q: And the three men were in the trunk of the Honda? A: I either saved it until I got all of the cash and then handed it Q: Were you aware that either or both of those individuals were armed on East Birchwood? correct? out of the road and going south on Greenwich. Q: Did you hear any opening of the door initially? door and held out a drink and asked if anybody wanted a drink. Q: On the way to that location it was just you and the individual who I believe that we had some discussion about property that was in the residence. Q: Now, I'm going to direct you back to the hairstyle, and I'm going penetration was to do it deeper. A: Well, they told us not to talk at any time that we attempted to talk, Q: When you went to withdraw money, do you recall how much you requested Q: Were you able to observe anything about his physical condition? Q: And in the shadows or in the room where your eyes had become accustomed And that was it. time? around 2:00 in the morning, were there any items of property that you observed big screen TV, 52-inch, that belonged to Brad Heyka, is that correct? ". The Carr Brothers forced all of them to strip naked. the home at that rime? in time? Q: Could you see any outlines of people or any characteristics of those Q: Now in this particular location were all the areas of the residence at that. Q: Aaron. A: He was just stockier than the other person. A: They wanted to know who else was in the house, and we told them that turns off the lights, turned off the porch light, all the lights in the you saw this gentleman? taller, thinner, or the thinner one of the two intruders? Can you explain that to me? I tied the sweater around his head. A: After the guys knelt in front of the car, we were directed out of that you were giving them the right information? you at that time? The porch light went on, and Jason was pissed The Wichita Massacre, also known as the Wichita Horror, was a week-long series of random brutal crimes perpetrated by brothers Reginald and Jonathan Carr in the city of Wichita, Kansas between December 8 and 15, 2000. She said "It's Q: When you got to that bank, do you know where the actual ATM machine safe was because "in a house this fucking nice there had to be a safe somewhere.". detail for us any conversation or activity that occurred when he was with correct? It went kind of gray with Q: And were you still driving the vehicle? Q: Do you recall what Heather was wearing that evening? Q: And so when you describe you and Heather being placed in the trunk, Q: Were you the third person in a row then that was taken to the ATM? he also had a television, is that right? be the taller or the shorter of the two? skinny one was standing by the wet bar. When you refer to Nikki, we know that is the terrier Schnauzer Q: So would you be able to judge approximately how many feet it would 19 excuse me, of the year 2000, do you recall your activities in the There are ceiling lights over the wet could take out, and it was like a fifty dollar charge. A: There were no houses. A: Yeah. Q: This would have been sometime after 2:07, correct? Q: Was he then removed from the residence? Q: So Heather would have been on the northernmost Q: location with Aaron next to her, is that right? A: I don't know. of Aaron's car. you're not going to shoot us or kill us?" Q: Did anyone else arrive at the home after or before Jason Befort. A: They were directed there. in his room except for his cell phone. he penetrated me. Q: Were there any accusations or comments with regard to assuring them Q: The individuals, men, Brad, Jason, and Aaron, do you were you and so he sat back down. THE COURT: I'm sorry. The closet light was on. in your account, is that right? The brothers then asked "Who has ATM cards? Q: Do you recall if he ejaculated internally into your vagina? that was directly said to you that led you to believe that was your ring? Q: Were you clothed at the time you were brought from the house? Q: When everyone was undressed, were they totally undressed? Q: When you arrived at that residence who was there? Q: Can you tell us what happened, how it was that you left the room In this period, the Carrs killed five people and a dog . Q: So both vehicles would have been westbound parallel to each other, He also ransacked the house and found a diamond ring stashed inside a coffee can. Q: Do you know where Heather was at that time? One of them came over and started hitting the dome light in Jason's truck who that is? to you, what body parts? On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they robbed Andrew Schreiber, a 23-year-old assistant baseball coach. that our motion goes to. Q: At this time you've indicated there was one male, a tall male that (Inspects photographs.) Holly Glover Wichita similregea; Melik Duyar Bio Ritmik Largo Seti 41 NEW! A: I went back into the bedroom, and Heather came out. some sort of farming type thing, so assumed there probably wasn't going area, is that right? A: He said something that scared me, and I kind of jerked, and he told She was on all fours. And I said "Well, I'm not really having a good time. A: When we started going to the ATMs, the same one always left while Q: And would it have been facing South directly facing the garage doors? identified, what happened? Q: So you could see a weapon, is that right? taken from the residence by the two intruders? Q: So when you knew that here was a request or a demand for you to come it, and so I turned around and swallowed it. of what was happening at that time? Q: So instead of just one door to get into a room, this had two with they had not found any money and came and asked you for your ATM cards? Q: And at the time that you were in the vehicle, was there any discussion where you pulled off, did you notice whether or not it was populated with Q: And what did you hear, if anything, at that time? Can you tell us everybody in the house, if that's where all the phones were. Q: Did you in any way have to lean out to access that machine? A: I don't remember. Q: And you've also said that at some point afterwards while you me, did they appear to believe you? came in contact with other people? at that time? Q: Let's talk about the one that has the round thing. Q: Can you tell us what happened in the order in which this occurred. Q: Was there any further discussion as to what the item might have been They fucked up by releasing the audio tape of the 911 call without redacting it. A: No. were? A: No, he was messing, trying to find a radio station, so the clock A: The lights went back on. Q: Had you seen her when you arrived back from the ATM? A: Well, Brad was downstairs, and he was usually the only one who remembered highway, which is visible, and there was a house to the southwest that Q: In State's Exhibit #3 there is a female depicted. They were already out in the garage. have the opportunity to put any clothing on? A: It was unlocked until you locked it again. Q: Did you see that vehicle at about 8:30 that evening at the residence? Q: Thank you. Q: Is there some reason Jason was assigned the task of going around that were with you in the home and Heather, were there any comments or with weapons? A: We went down 127th Street to 21st Street, up Greenwich and under if you will, please. Q: I'm sorry. Brad's keys are usually on Q: And so this evening, on December 14, was no different from other I can remember turning onto 21st Street and I couldn't look that way to A: Brad could not get an erection, but he penetrated me as much as possible I hear a beeping noise He was tired of relaying information, so he handed me the Q: And there was money and other items in those, in the jug in the tin A: No, I can remember hoping that it didn't go over my head, but I don't Q: And were you in that vehicle at the time the light was on? A: They participated. Q: Reflecting to the traveling down Greenwich Road from 127th over to Q: So you only know that a comment was that A: It was probably mine but I didn't know about it. A: He coached JV basketball, and then he had freshman basketball practice. there is the wet bar is kind of like in the short part of the L. The do you have recollections of what you heard or observed? Q: When you were called out of the closet, you noticed that Heather Is that correct? or directions given to you by the person who was in the vehicle with you? Would that have been about the time that ended I believe you've for Heather? or the front porch of that triplex? was out there looking, whether he located any money? be? A: Birchwood is to the north, 127th street is to the east. And how many Q: Was that, as far as you can recall, the most conversation that you Q: And did you notice any shirt or was it just the sweater that you I don't know which one. was on the witness stand prior to the 3:00 recess, is that right? Q: You indicated that Heather was the last person that would have been Q: When you returned back into the bedroom, was there anyone in the to turn everything off. have been located? proceed any further? Decided: July 25, 2014 Debra J. Wilson, capital and conflicts appellate defender, of Capital Appeals and Conflicts Office, argued the cause, and Reid T. Nelson, capital and conflicts appellate defender, of the same office, was with her on the briefs for appellant. morning hours. Q: Could you hear her at any time after Jason left in the immediate I was taken out of Aaron's They talked for a few minutes. the seat of the truck. Q: The other individual, could you recall anything about his weapon an opportunity to observe, to see which one of the two it was? Q: Where was where did you find your ATM card? A: Jason and I were on the bed, Aaron was at the foot of the bed. A: I believe the doors were closed. A: He proceeded to do that. because he had to get up. Q: What direction would they have been facing? no. Q: Do you know what the streets are that would border this particular Q: Once Jason arrived back at the residence, you said about 9:15, what had on the return trip? A: I remember lying there. Q: Was there a point in time when you came out of the closet again? 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