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LOL Whatever the case, it's clear from the NTSB report that the mob that was fixated on "busted minimums" was wrong. Looking at flightaware data, the pilot made two approaches on RNAV RWY 20. It is possible to calculate the as-flown descent angle that the aircraft experienced between the final two full ADS-B data points and see if it was 3, 3.75 or something else using rise run to angle conversion. What does ADSB have to do with this preventable accident? Aviation don't care who you are. Most of "those pilots" (as you call them) do just fine at almost all single pilot 135 operations and if they "don't get it", it's your job to weed them out. It's very possible she could see the runway but wasn't seeing the smoke stack for various reasons, Perhaps was not following the flight director and passing weather unexpectedly started dropping heavier mist and snow just long enough to obscure visual.Here is the NEXRAD weather playback for the 1400 to 1500Z period, with BYI's location marked. Maybe you thought they were recent because the overhead photo shown on google map imaging is not as recent as street view or the Town News article photos and the red metal structure and yellow ladder wasn't there when the outdated overhead image was taken. Reply. The pilot reported passing the initial approach fix, and about 4 minutes later reported a missed approach. "It doesn't seem like you understand how ASOS works. Operating Certificate(s) Held: Commuter air carrier (135), Observation Facility, Elevation: KBYI,4143 ft msl, Distance from Accident Site: 1 Nautical Miles, Wind Speed/Gusts, Direction: 8 knots / , 190, Departure Point: Salt Lake City, UT (SLC), Latitude, Longitude: 42.551433,-113.75969. Flying time at 80 kts ground speed was just 16 sec, break out to tower. The Weather.gov page that contains your copied text paragraph verbatim may have been the origin of all the other bad "starter blade" pastes over the years. She descended out of the clouds and was quickly enveloped in the steam cloud (as witnessed by people on the ground and by surveillance video). and should have gone around or made sure the diamonds were centered.https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220413/1300Z/KSLC/KBYI/tracklogBoth of those approaches aren't as stabilized so my guess is that she was experiencing a lot of turbulence though the winds were fairly light (8kts) and practically straight down the runway (190). (Note: BYI METAR winds were 200 at 7 to 8 knots during both approaches. Here is. El Paso, TX USA Don't forget that NOTAMs should not be permanent notations but rather temporary fixes or transient notifications until the appropriate official guidance can be updated. There is no "glidepath", "decision altitude", "needles" (plural), or any sort of vertical guidance at all. Whatever the case, I can't imagine the pain her family is going through. I remember reading a story about a pilot who ditched in the ocean just off shore from a beach, maybe 20-30 yards out, and walked away uninjured. Burley is considering a new airport location:https://www.idahostatejournal.com/news/local/burley-ready-to-move-forward-with-new-airport-project-asks-counties-for-support/article_5a0c977c-3015-5dec-bd16-35979dfa8cdf.html, This is probably the hardest commercial flying job around Pilot is the third most dangerous job.Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 58.9https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/the-10-most-dangerous-jobs-in-america-according-to-bls-data.htmlRenowned airshow performer Eric Beard also died as a freight dog pilot.https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20060108&slug=webpilot08YouTube https://youtu.be/LivNwDABHdwNTSB https://generalaviationnews.com/2006/09/22/ntsb-cites-pilot-error-in-january-airpac-crash/. AWOS data typically includes ceiling and sky conditions, visibility, temperature, dew point, altimeter setting and wind speed, gusts and direction, ASOS can additionally provide the type and intensity of precipitation (rain, snow, freezing rain), and obstructions to visibility such as fog and haze. 18. However, I do not live out there and haven't seen the stack in person.https://gray-kmvt-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/Z9XA94vRdq5ABRdEofwGJeK0tGE=/1200x675/smart/filters:quality(85)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gray/JNAC4GVPRBC7RHHQSIO3P2WAEY.JPGAnonymous Said: "I wouldn't start speculating that they hit the silos, without proof, because those of us who live there see no indication that the silos or cooling towers were touched. There is still data needed to determine amount of fuel in tanks. It's likely the effect of the plume is fairly localized, much like wake turbulence. Subsequently, the controller cleared the pilot for the RNAV runway 20 approach via the MALTT transition at BYI. *(2) If you back-solve this the other way, starting from the end of the runway with a 40ft TCH vertical offset as shown on the published plate, and go up toward JAMID with a 3.75 degree slope, you still only clear the top of a 100ft AGL stack by *73 feet. I'd be the same. The RNAV RWY 20 approach requires a significantly steep descent angle of 3.75 degrees from the FAF, which would require a 700-800 fpm decent for typical Caravan approach speeds.5. There is something definitely sticking above the top of the chimney on a yellow pole coming from the cage.While it will be interesting to see if the GPS or WAAS signal was degraded for the GPS RWY 20 approach, the pilot should have been in visual conditions./ME. (NTSB). I totally agree with you. Flaps don't seem to be deployed. Coming in hot and high is a poor practice in any airplane; in a jet, it can eat up an awful lot of runway. "Santa Monica, California Airport Commissioner Doris Minter, is beginning her third year as member and chairwoman of the city's five member board. There is no indication as yet that the pilot was given the special automated report. Confusingly, the approach plate says "VGSI and descent angles not coincident", but runway 20 does not have any sort of VGSI at all! Skydive Kauai Cessna 182 crash NTSB final report. Freight dispatchers aren't the ones responsible for letting under-equipped airports remain that way. Kathryn s Report Cessna 525C Citation CJ4 N614SB Fatal. Cessna 210-5 (205), N8149Z: Fatal accident occurred December 04, 2022 near Cleburne Regional Airport (KCPT), Johnson County, Texas . Personal attacks and hate speech directed at the NTSB investigators, FAA investigators, Designated Pilot Examiners, Kathryn, as well as other members of the aviation blog, are unacceptable because they are not constructive. Sunrise was 6:56. All GA pilots should know that a plume of steam vapour and condensate is a concentrated convective cell storm. Begin final portion of descent to the runway numbers. Rule is, you don';t go below the MDA unless the runway environment is continuously in sight and for the Caravan pilot, it was not. On 29 May 2021, a Cessna 501 Citation I/SP crashed into the Percy Priest Lake in Tennessee. There's no way to verify that your approach angle is correct because there's no vertical guidance nor is there a PAPI or VASI on that runway. At some time before noon on August 7, 2020, a Turbo Cessna 210 took off from Roosevelt, Utah, for a fair-weather daytime flight. The witness heard the engine increase in sound and saw the nose lift shortly before the airplane struck the smokestack and descend to the rooftop.". Easy to answer. The tower was 60 agl, she lost altitude quickly when she hit the steam cloud. Aviationdb shows N8361D, a Beech J35 registered to him 1998 thru 2014, N265VA RV-12 2014 thru 2017. you think it's unreasonable for a pilot to descend to a standard 3.0 degree glidepath once they have the runway in sight?When the glidepath specified on the approach is 3.75 degrees, yes, yes I do. Remember to embrace and treasure every moment, just as she did. There was a small plane crash in North Carolina on June 16, 2022. ^ You are making too much of a simple accident. The MDA is 4560 with a TDZE of 4152; so 408 above with a requirement of 1 mile visibility. Accident investigation report completed and information captured. Interestingly, he showed FAA correspondence admitting that the plant stacks penetrated the approach surface. You're missing his point entirely. Anyone have the ATC audio? Loss of Control in Flight: Cessna 525C Citation CJ4, N614SB, fatal accident occurred December 29 . The KBYI AWOS observations already cited above all gave evidence of Icing Conditions of -SN (light snow) and below freezing temperatures. MARLIN, Texas (KTRK) -- Two people dead after a Cessna TU206 crashed Tuesday afternoon in Marlin, Texas. A pilot can do a CDFA to the VDP, or "dive and drive" to the self-calculated VDP, either is legal, OK. It shows the end of RWY20 as 4143' at the threshold, and 4160' on the ground beside the potato plant. Only difference is the pleasurable physical appearance of the pilot. Cessna T337G Super Skymaster, N337KN: Fatal accident occurred July 17, 2022 in Gold Hill, Boulder County, Colorado . Seems like you are grasping for something to be upset about, or need to work on reading comprehension. Additionally, the aircraft should have been approximately 100 feet to the right of the stacks if the needles/diamonds are centered and on the approach path. it seems you haven't even bothered to read the prelim report. Location: New England. Someone else who had similarly flown into BYI many times, made a first approach across the impossible to overcome steam cloud before going missed, came in for the second after sizing it all up thoroughly on the first pass, but continuing until crashing instead of going missed again. Yes, the N56KJ CVR transcript and the fact that the top of the tail was not cleared because "it will blow off" are important reminders of how far you can go wrong with decision making focused toward get-there-itis.Having comments on N56KJ closed is unfortunate. COO occasionally recaps fatalities as a learning tool for pilots, as the reports are very often informative and important. Snow was observed falling. Remember, is was a cold, snowy morning, with very limited visibility, and according to the AWOS at the time of the crash, the temperature/dewpoint spread was only two degrees; in other words a very nearly saturated atmosphere. Messages that harass, abuse or threaten other persons, such as threats to cause bodily harm, or that contain obscene or otherwise objectionable content, may result in the loss of your posting privileges. And if your flight path elevation there is correct (not saying it isn't), 4,365 is below the MDA of 4,560 so all pilots would have visual conditions before reaching it by simply following the MDA protocol.Here is the record for the stack she hit, obstruction #16-036731.16-036731 O US ID HEYBURN 42 33 05.92N 113 45 34.15W STACK 1 00100 04256 R 4 D P 2016ANM01617OE A 2017285Full stack record discussion showing the source data origin, how to decode the obstacle record and a position verification to be certain of the correct match by mapping the 42 33 05.92N 113 45 34.15W location is already posted up thread. On July 17, 2022, about 1204 pacific daylight time, a Piper PA-46-350P airplane, N97CX, and a Cessna 172N airplane, N160RA, were destroyed when they were involved in an accident near Las Vegas, Nevada. Four years ago, Burley airport lost their Federal Aviation Administration funding because it did not meet their safety standards due to short runways. 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